Вопрос по Спириту. (И не только)

[DrTressi]

Вопрос по Спириту. (И не только)

Приветствую всех, кто не ждёт ответов на вопросы дня и тех кто идёт своим путём!

Набрался смелости задать 2-3 ламерских вопроса... как получится.

1) Почему машины ездют отдельно от стекол??? Стёкла не успевают.

2) Как сделать ящики, любые объекты которые можно носить в руках?

3) Почему не работает физика?(Я имею ввиду то что от взрыва всё разлетается к чертям). И ещё верёвки за которые можно тянуть разные предметы.

И ещё: Чтоб не создавать новую тему - подскажите как убрать окошко загрузки для мультиплеера? Т.е. совсем убрать. Либо написать там что нить другое, либо замаскировать.

И последнее: Как убрать возможность выхода в игру(из меню) кнопкой Esc? Желательно для мультиплеера.

Другими словами, мне нужно чтобы в мультиплеер вообще нельзя было возвращаться? А в сингл - можно. Такое возможно? ЗАранее спасибо!

Зы: Я рад, если кто-то понял меня!

 

[Gaia]

1) Потому что это спирит
2) По тому же принципу, по которому реализованы стёкла у машин, или прикрутить "человеческий" физ. двиг. Аттачить ессно к игроку. Гемор страшный.
3) Потому что нет нормальной физики в спирите. Или о чем ты?
4) ковырять папку valve/resources
5) см. п. 4.

>>Другими словами, мне нужно чтобы в мультиплеер вообще нельзя было возвращаться? А в сингл - можно. Такое возможно? ЗАранее спасибо!
Совсем не понял. ты про консольную команду "deathmatch"?

По вопросу "прикрутить физику" советую почитать тут:
http://hlfx.ru/forum/showthread.php?threadid=2100
http://hlfx.ru/forum/showthread.php?threadid=2011

И вообще, советую обратить внимание на xash.

 

[DrTressi]

2 Nucleo:
Спасибо за ответ!

1)А где норм всё?
2)Ой! А можно поподробнее?
3) Я о:


[VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-OCaQtPsZw[/VIDEO]

>Другими словами, мне нужно чтобы в мультиплеер вообще нельзя было возвращаться? А в сингл - можно. Такое возможно? ЗАранее спасибо!
Совсем не понял. ты про консольную команду "deathmatch"?

И да, и нет. Я хочу чтобы Сингл работал нормально. А при создании карт в мультиплеере И ВЫХОДЕ В МЕНЮ - возврата не было.

 

[FiEctro]

2 DrTressi:
Ололо, ты скажи хоть версия какая.

 

[DrTressi]

2 FiEctro: У меня или на видео?

 

[DrTressi]

Чёт никто не отвечает.. Никто не знаает что ль?

 

[FiEctro]

2 DrTressi:
А чего отвечать? Версий спиритов дофига, и у каждого своя палитра багов.

>> У меня или на видео?

И там и там. На сайте спирита была эта карта пример, но потом сайт здох, попроси кого нить из старожил хлру, мб у кого то осталось.

>> Почему машины ездют отдельно от стекол??? Стёкла не успевают.

Не успевают или стоят на месте? Если первое, попробуй версию спирита 1.7 (выше юзать не советую), если второе, в параметрах стекла, в поле мовитвич пропиши имя энтитии к которой хочешь приделать стекло.

 

[DrTressi]

У меня Параноевский. А в каком можно ящики двигать? НА видео - хз.

 

[FiEctro]

2 DrTressi:
Даже хз, в теории как раз начиная с 1.2, там оно не кодингом сделано, а с помощью локусов и всякой неведомой фигни.

 

[DrTressi]

Блин. Ну а можешь поподробнее? Хоть как нибудь. Чоть какую то информацию. или карта может есть с этим?

 

[FiEctro]

2 DrTressi:
Сорр что подымаю эту тему, возможно вопрос еще актуален, нашел тутор [EN] по гравицапе на спирите.

Оффтоп

Picking up objects

Look at this video. Just like in HL² I can pick up items and carry them around.

Writing this tutorial I notice that this is pretty easy to map, but hard to explain. Just hang in there and try to follow what im writing. Ill make plenty of pictures at the end.

To understand this tutorial you should:
- Read my tutorials about calc and motion entites.
- Have good knowledge of mapping in general.
- Understand how the locus system works. There is a document about that in one of the older spirit version.

This is what we need:
- The player must be able to choose what object to pick up, by looking at it.
- The player must decide to pick an object up by pressing a button.
- The object must then move with the player as if he was holding it.

First of all we need a point infront of the player. This is the position that carried objects will follow. Create a calc_position to get the players position. Add a calc_subvelocity to get the players viewangle. Enter the subvelocitys name at the "Offset" field of the calc_position. Now your calc_position is a point in front of the player. Use the "Scale Factor" field to determine how far from the player that point is. Enter a "Scale factor" of 50 and you will hold objects 50 units infront of you. Experiment with this value a little. If you choose a point to far from the player, it looks not realistic. If you choose point to close you might get problems picking up huge crates.

To "carry" objects around you will need a motion_manager. You can use it to make objects follow the point in front of the player. But how does the motion_manager know what object to affect/how does the player "choose" what to carry around?

The answer is a trigger_multiple. Create a trigger_multiple and give it an origin-brush. Use a motion_manager to set its position to that point in front of the player. This trigger_multiple will now allways stay in front of the player. An object inside this trigger will be selected as the one to be picked up. So by looking at an object from close distance you will move the trigger_multiple "into" that object. In the "Target" field of the trigger multiple enter the name of a motion_manager.
So if an object gets into your trigger_multiple it will trigger the motion_manager and thus be the locus. In the "Target to affect" field of the motionmanager enter *locus. Your motion_manager now knows what entity to affect.

There are different methods on how to "carry" an object but I prefer this one. Use a calc_velocity_path to get the distance from the locus(the object you carry) to the point in front of the player(reffer to the calc_position here). Make the "Length Calculation" "Square". Then have the motion_manager "Set velocity" of the object according to your calc_velocity_path. Meaning: If the object you carry is not where it should be(should in front of the player) it will get some speed so it gets there.

You can now pick up objects by looking at them. Looking at them? Thats not what you wanted, you wanted to press a button to pick them up.
Well its simple. So far I said enter the name of the motion_manager in the target field of the trigger_multiple. So of course as soon as an object is in the trigger_multiple it will get picked up. You can change this by leaving the target of the trigger_multiple blank. Now nothing happens when you look at an object. Add a trigger_changetarget. Make it so that this trigger_changetarget changes the target of the trigger_multiple to the motion_manager. When you trigger the trigger_changetarget your trigger_multiple will now target the motion_manager.
In spirit you can trigger entities by typing fire <nameofentity> in the console. This only works when sv_cheats is 1. You can now bind a key so that it will trigger the trigger_changetarget. Type bind "k" "fire <nameofyourtrigger_changetarget>".
Look at an object you want to pick up. Nothing happens because your trigger_multiple has no target. Press k and your trigger_multiple will get a target: the motion_manager.
You must add another trigger_changetarget that will set the trigger_multiples target back to blank shortly after the first trigger_changetarget. This is to make sure the pickup function works more than just once.

You can now pick up objects by looking at them and pressing k. Dropping items is very simple. Just deactivate the motion_manager and the object you were carrying will act normal again...fall down. Bind another key to deactivate the motion_manager. This will be your drop key.
If youre feeling fancy you can use a couple of trigger_relays and trigger_changetargets and make it so that you have one key for both picking up items and dropping them again. Im leaving you to figure it out by yourself. If you cant do it just use two keys.

Is that all? No. In spirit things are never that easy. The problem is that a trigger_multiple only recognizes objects that move. A crate that just stands still wont be recognized and that means you wont be able to pick it up. Solution. Add a trigger_push with the same size as your trigger_multiple. Give it very little push speed and set its angle to "up". Trigger it when you want to pick up an item. The object you want to pick up will move allmost unnoticable but just enough for the trigger_multiple.

(Man! Huge vectors coming out of a guys pelvis! Scale Factors! I should sell penis enlargement products!)

So far I have allways talked about picking up "objects". But in HL there are no "objects" only entities. The question is what entities can be picked up?
Your trigger_multiple controls what entities can be picked up. Look at the flags first.
- "Monster": Do you want to be able to pick up monsters? If yes then activate this.
- "No clients": Picking up other players in multiplayer? Could be possible but: Nobody plays SoHL in multiplayer. And also there might be a possibility that you might accidently try to pick up yourself. And that would be bad. Knowing spirit I say it would probably crash...Activate "No clients" if you want to be save.
- "Pushables" Definitely a must. Picking up pushables is cool. You can stack them to get over high obstacles or you can block an enemies path with them.
- "Everything else" When they say "Everything else" they mean Everything else. If you tick this flag you can pick up nearly every entity in game. Func_doors? Yes. The skull from a gibbed scientist? Yes. The func_water from a swimming pool? Yes. A hornet that an alien_grunt fired at you? Yes.

You have to understand that this setting really refferes to all entities. BUT your motion_manager that you use to move the objects uses the "Set speed" setting. And if you recall my tutorial about motion_managers you will remember that only entities that move "freely" will be affected by this. That means your trigger_multiple will recognize func_doors. But the motion_manager cant move them because they dont move free.

The trigger_multiple also has a "Triggered only by entity" field. Here you can enter a name. Now only entities with that name can be picked up. Enter something like "pickmeup" here and then name some entities "pickmeup". The player will only be able to grab these. This is good if you want the pick up option in your map, but dont want the player to become too powerfull.

Thats all folks. If you have questions, suggestions or find errors message me or write in the Discussion thread.

Оригинал

 

[DrTressi]

2 FiEctro: Ничего не сор! То что нужно, спасибо!